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Thread (Discussion): [WorldNetDaily] Cop: Sept. 11 made me a Peeping Tom - precedence
Message 124485
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Posted by admin
on Jan 08, 2004 08:18 PM | Also by admin
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Discuss the article Cop: Sept. 11 made me a Peeping Tom, which appeared on WorldNetDaily on January 08, 2004.
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Message 124486 (In Reply to Message 124485)
What a lame excuse
Posted by steve
on Jan 09, 2004 01:22 AM | Also by steve
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The title of the article about sums it up. People just don't want to take responsibility for their actions anymore. The sad part is that depending on the jury it just might work.
Navigatr1, I thought you'd like this article - not sure how relevant it is for the forum you administer, but it's probably of interest to the readers there.
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Message 124507 (In Reply to Message 124486)
I Love It
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on Jan 09, 2004 04:32 AM | Also by dp1
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I love this guy! He's original, creative and manipulative. Us folks in the criminal justice system get tired of the same old excuses. It's about time they are coming up with better ones.(LOL) He needs to do some time behind bars to catch his attention since he's preoccupied by 911 and naked girls.
DP1
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Message 124568 (In Reply to Message 124485)
Al-Queda made me do it!
Posted by lj
on Jan 09, 2004 11:56 PM | Also by lj
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I always love it when I see articles and stories about LE who can't own up to their behaviors, even though they've spent time arresting others with the expectation that those others will get honest with themselves one day.
In a town nearby me, there was a recent newspaper article from a detective pleading to the public for an upcoming pay raise increase that's to be voted on. In the article, he stressed that one-third of the policemen become alcoholics later in life as a result of the stress of the job and he used this point as one of his arguments for the public to vote Yes on the measure.
How about if those alcoholic policemen do like the rest of us--own up to your behavior if you're a drunk and change it--or--use some kind of plan to prevent it from occurring later on in your life.
You know, sort of like you expect of those you bust from time to time.
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Message 124647 (In Reply to Message 124568)
Posted by orolan
on Jan 10, 2004 05:18 PM | Also by orolan
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...spent time arresting others with the expectation that those others will get honest with themselves...
Officers with this philosophy don't commit crimes. They really do care, both about the criminal and the public they protect.
It's the officers you see who strut and swagger everywhere with a "look at me, I'm God" attitude that are the criminals. They're in it for the power trip, most likely because they have an inferiority complex. They arrest people because they can, not because they should.
IMHO
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Message 124658 (In Reply to Message 124485)
Maybe some fact to it
Posted by Silverthorne
on Jan 10, 2004 07:08 PM | Also by Silverthorne
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I found this quote most interesting in this article:
""I guarantee that before 9-11 that this man had been a Peeping Tom," Don Lewittes told the Daily News. "But somehow it was either under control ... or he got away with it. Then 9-11 happens, and it breaks through all his defenses." "
The SO expert acknowledges he may have had it under control (or just not been caught). Lets look at this a moment.
We all know as part of the pathology of sex offenses and acting out stress is a major factor. I can state honestly that my "problem" (being attracted in unhealthy ways to boys) is most prevelant when I'm under stress and my life is going poorly. While Ive been able to keep my urges under control its alot easier to do so when everything is going well.
So lets take a look at this cop. If he was "stressed out" by 9/11 perhaps its possible it pushed him over an imaginary line and he did something like this.
Thats no excuse of course but the light sentence he got would seem to indicate they acknowledge maybe its a little true?
Silverthore
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Message 124703 (In Reply to Message 124658)
Posted by lj
on Jan 11, 2004 05:45 AM | Also by lj
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In the treatment program I was in years ago, there were a couple of guys who tried to blame their sexual acting out on the stresses they experienced from the Viet Nam war. The therapists wouldn't let them use that as a valid excuse.
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Message 124706 (In Reply to Message 124703)
Not an excuse..... but.......
Posted by Silverthorne
on Jan 11, 2004 05:53 AM | Also by Silverthorne
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"In the treatment program I was in years ago, there were a couple of guys who tried to blame their sexual acting out on the stresses they experienced from the Viet Nam war. The therapists wouldn't let them use that as a valid excuse."
I dont mean use it as an excuse. What Im refering to is a contributing factor. Most sex offender therapy revolves around the identification of "triggers" that lead to unhealthy fantasies and behaviors. The therapists help the person identify what happend that led up to a behavior.
Ive noticed in my own therapy they focused alot on my "life" when problems come up. Things werent going well, that made me "stressed out" and thus vulnerable. Its not an excuse but it shows the pathology leading up to a possible act.
So stress isn't a "cause" but its a trigger that can lead to dysfunctional thoughts and behaviors. Thats what I meant.
Silverthorne
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Message 124820 (In Reply to Message 124706)
Terror-related stress as a trigger
Posted by lj
on Jan 12, 2004 10:12 AM | Also by lj
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Prosecutors wouldn't say if terror-related stress was a factor in their handling of the case, ...
I wonder if "terror-related stress" is going to be a trigger for various forms of acting out in the future. According to this article, people have broken up their marriages, turned into alcoholics, become a peeping tom, and had panic attacks as a result of 9-11.
With the potential for more of these kinds of attacks happening and also just the announcements of potential terrorist activities being predicted around certain holidays and occasions in our country, it could trigger a lot of stress-related variations from now until who knows when.
Psy-ops plays a big part in terrorist warfare and terror-related stress could be part and parcel of their plan.
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Message 124913 (In Reply to Message 124486)
It is posted at CopWatch.com
Posted by Navigatr1
on Jan 13, 2004 08:17 AM | Also by Navigatr1
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Steve wrote:
Navigatr1, I thought you'd like this article - not sure how relevant it is for the forum you administer, but it's probably of interest to the readers there.
I most definately posted it over at CopWatch.com
COPWATCH.com Forum > NEWS > Special Focus: LAW ENFORCEMENT SEX OFFENDERS > Cop: Sept. 11 made me a Peeping Tom
http://www.copwatch.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=2143
I liked how he was blaming 9/11 for his sexual deviancy. I wonder what else he will blame 9/11 for? Will he go on a shooting rampage and blame that on 9/11 too? Or possibly one of the terrorist alerts will be the trigger he will blame it on? If he is blaming 9/11 on his problems, then he presents a serious danger to the community, and should be civilly committed so that he can get some help before he hurts someone.
At least he has to go through a pychological evaluation, and sex offender treatment. Maybe we can have him transferred to dp1's or DoTheCrimeDoTheTime's jurisdiction? [grin] I'm sure they wouldn't mind supervising him?
--Navigatr1
CopWatch.com News Moderator
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Message 159103 (In Reply to Message 124485)
Girl in shower and cop in jail
Posted by Navigatr1
on Aug 18, 2005 04:33 PM | Also by Navigatr1
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Girl in shower and cop in jail
Busted for filming of 11-year-old
http://www.nydailynews.com/front/story/126090p-112918c.html
By KERRY BURKE and DON SINGLETON
DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITERS
An off-duty Port Authority cop was arraigned yesterday on charges of videotaping an 11-year-old Queens girl taking a shower, police said.
Officer Russell Bass, 42, of Hempstead, L.I., was tackled by relatives of the girl near their Jamaica home early Friday morning, police said.
The girl was showering just after 6:30 a.m. when "she noticed a hand holding a camera in the bathroom window," which was partially open, said Patrick Clark, spokesman for Queens District Attorney Richard Brown.
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Message 159109 (In Reply to Message 124485)
precedence
Posted by myoung
on Aug 18, 2005 05:25 PM | Also by myoung
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I can see this setting a brand new precedence for finding scapegoats for foul behavior. Ahhhh, and I thought our society had exhausted their resources for finding "outs" for people.
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124485, admin, Jan 08, 2004 08:18 PM [Introduction]
124486, steve, Jan 09, 2004 01:22 AM [What a lame excuse]
124507, dp1, Jan 09, 2004 04:32 AM [I Love It]
124913, Navigatr1, Jan 13, 2004 08:17 AM [It is posted at CopWatch.com]
124568, lj, Jan 09, 2004 11:56 PM [Al-Queda made me do it!]
124647, orolan, Jan 10, 2004 05:18 PM
124658, Silverthorne, Jan 10, 2004 07:08 PM [Maybe some fact to it]
124703, lj, Jan 11, 2004 05:45 AM
124706, Silverthorne, Jan 11, 2004 05:53 AM [Not an excuse..... but.......]
124820, lj, Jan 12, 2004 10:12 AM [Terror-related stress as a trigger]
159103, Navigatr1, Aug 18, 2005 04:33 PM [Girl in shower and cop in jail]
159109, myoung, Aug 18, 2005 05:25 PM [precedence]
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