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admin on Dec 21, 2003 09:11 PM | Also by admin
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Discuss the article State mails counties names of Level 3 offenders for possible civil commitment, by Randy Furst, which appeared on Minneapolis Star Tribune on December 20, 2003.

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steve on Dec 22, 2003 02:13 AM | Also by steve
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With a debate raging over the Alfonso Rodriguez Jr. case, the state Corrections Department mailed letters this week to 25 county attorneys with the names of about 200 Level 3 sex offenders, including 135 who have already been released, whom prosecutors might want to consider for civil commitment.


Will the alleged kidnapping of Dru Sjodin by Alfonso Rodriguez lead to a new law and push for civil commitment of sex offenders, much like the rape and murder of children such as Jacob Wetterling, Megan Kanka, etc. led to Megan's Law, the Jacob Wetterling Act, etc. that resulted in sex offender registration and community notification laws?

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dp1 on Dec 23, 2003 04:49 AM | Also by dp1
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My first thoughts about this article was that it did sound like the Corrections Department was passing the buck to the local county prosecuters. But, after thinking twice about it, I like the idea. If the responsibility goes back to the prosecuters then maybe they'll step up to the plate with their new cases and fight harder to get the stiffer penalties upon conviction. That's the whole problem with the civil commitment process. These really dangerous sex offenders never got the stiff penalties from the beginning and are up for release. If they got the number of years they actually deserved we wouldn't have to worry about commiting them to a treatment facility after their sentenced expired. After all, we don't worry about murderers getting released too early do we? Because historically they always got the stiff penalties.
DP1

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orolan on Dec 25, 2003 04:14 AM | Also by orolan
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Odds are there will be a legislative backlash. But in this case, unlike the cases of Megan Kanka and Jacob Wetterling, the whole problem revolves around the phrase
the alleged kidnapping of Dru Sjodin by Alfonso Rodriguez
. Mr. Rodriguez is a suspect, and from what we know, the evidence is circumstantial. No body, no blood, no weapons, no eyewitnesses. The biggest thing against him is the fact that he is a sex offender.

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Silverthorne on Dec 26, 2003 09:15 PM | Also by Silverthorne
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"Under the new policy, which Hatch's office has criticized, the Corrections Department no longer refers Level 3 sex offenders for possible commitment proceedings, but rather sends the names of all such offenders to the counties because it believes that prosecutors are in the best position to make a legal decision on seeking a commitment. "


This appears to really "pass the buck" in these cases. I'd like to see some guidelines from the feds (or even state) rather then letting some local yokel sheriff and prosecutor in some small county decide. Minnesota has 80+ counties and I doubt half of them have people who really know anything about sex offenders. I think a state board would be better equiped to handle something like this.

Silverthorne

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orolan on Dec 28, 2003 07:23 PM | Also by orolan
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I agree. Bringing the determination down to the county level opens up too many doors to abuse. Too much of a possiblity that backs will be scratched without regard to the actual merits of the task at hand.

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123487, admin, Dec 21, 2003 09:11 PM [Introduction]
      123488, steve, Dec 22, 2003 02:13 AM
            123605, dp1, Dec 23, 2003 04:49 AM [Tough One]
            123755, orolan, Dec 25, 2003 04:14 AM
      123824, Silverthorne, Dec 26, 2003 09:15 PM
            123937, orolan, Dec 28, 2003 07:23 PM

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