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Message 174258 (In Reply to Message 174228)

Posted by Navigatr1 on Mar 04, 2006 05:08 AM | Also by Navigatr1

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I am very sorry that you have had to defend yourself on this board about being a victim by people that call themselves victim advocates. The make up of this board is very unique. For some the glass is either half full or half empty depending on your perspective. The victim advocates tend to be pessimists. They are going to tell you that sex offenders alway reoffend. When one does, they will say I told you so. The sex offenders are usually more optimistic and will point to statistics to back them up. sometimes it can be hard to find common ground, and for some there can be no common ground.

Some people on this board feel that you have to be on one side or the other, and that you can't be on both sides. They want to you to choose sides. If you defend sex offenders, then they will automatically put you with the sex offenders and assume that you are one too. Why else would you be defending them?

Like you, I am also a victim even though I tend to defend the sex offenders based on constitutional grounds. I can see both sides of the issue. There are also sex offenders who are victims themselves, but must forever be a sex offender due to the label. They can see both sides of the issue themselves.

--Navigatr1

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Message 174228

Posted by june5 on Mar 03, 2006 10:45 PM | Also by june5

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Some folks think this site is being overrun by the SO's and there are a lot of flames going up.

Here are the groups that we are supposed to choose from:  Child Molesters, Pedos, Pedo-Pushers, Victims, RSO's, and RSO Supporters.

How are we supposed to have any intelligent discourse going on when we are all labeling each other that way?

In my opinion, narrow-minded people like to label others that way.  It keeps things simple.   We all aren't in an easily-labeled group.

I actually found myself defending to a perfect stranger that I am a rape victim.  I am not the first one to have faced this challenge.  I'm supposed to be on a side, right?  Well, I'm sorry, I don't have one.  I have empathy for the victims and the SO's, and I know I am not the only one.  But I can't say anything without somebody pointing out for me that I am clearly deranged because my husband is an RSO (who is probably reoffending at this moment, according to some on this board).  The same things happen to the "child molesters" who obviously have nothing intelligent to add, based on their "status."  If you are a victim and have something to say in "defense" of an RSO, well, then, you probably aren't really a victim.

Speaking of victims, people are wondering why there aren't more victims in the victims forum or elsewhere.  Take a look at the threads there for yourself.  One getting alot of action lately is about a woman who married an RSO.  Yeah, I bet someone who was attacked recently really cares about this.   Most of the posts over there go something like this:  HOW COULD ANYBODY CARE ABOUT A CHILD MOLESTER!!!!   Again, very helpful and informative for victims.  This site has become one big RSO-bashing fest.

It is unfortunate, but this site is starting to remind me of Junior-High School.  It is really too bad, because this is such a serious issue.
Call me a dreamer, but it would be really nice if we could all just respect each other without all the childish name-calling.  I don't think that is too much to ask from adults.

Otherwise, go right ahead and respond that I'm just some pedo-pushing lunatic.  For some people, the only way that they can feel powerful is to put down others.  I wouldn't want to take that away from anyone.

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174228, june5, Mar 03, 2006 10:45 PM
      174258, Navigatr1, Mar 04, 2006 05:08 AM
      174279, orolan, Mar 04, 2006 01:58 PM
      174281, Valerie, Mar 04, 2006 02:15 PM
            174307, june5, Mar 04, 2006 08:41 PM [Valerie]
                  174376, Pending Further Review
                  174507, emergency56, Mar 16, 2006 05:54 PM [Former Police officer]
            174322, june5, Mar 05, 2006 12:06 AM [Valerie]
                  174348, Pending Further Review
                  174350, Pending Further Review
                  174353, Pending Further Review
                  174375, Pending Further Review
                  174420, Pending Further Review
                  174472, Rejected
                  174475, Valerie, Mar 11, 2006 05:37 AM
                        174609, Pending Further Review
                        174619, Pending Further Review
      174419, Pending Further Review
      174517, fireflybabe, Mar 17, 2006 05:48 PM [VICTIMS DO COME HERE]

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