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Thread (Discussion): Young boy charged with sexually assaulting a toddler
Message 173986
Posted by Navigatr1
on Feb 28, 2006 04:42 PM | Also by Navigatr1
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Young boy charged with sexually assaulting a toddler
http://www.waff.com/Global/story.asp?S=4449186
Feb 28, 2006, 09:06 AM
A young boy is charged with sexually assaulting a 3-year old relative.
Authorities say he got the idea from a television show.
When parents heard the news that a 5th grade boy was arrested for sexually assaulting a 3-year old male relative, they had plenty to say about it.
"I'm sad to hear about that. Something need to be done," says Edith Jones.
"If a 10-year-old does it, you don't know who will be out there doing that to other kids or anybody," says Joanie Lane.
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Message 173994 (In Reply to Message 173986)
Posted by prozac
on Feb 28, 2006 08:52 PM | Also by prozac
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Oral sex got very popular with kids, even some grade school children, after the Clinton impeachment effort.
That's all Clinton's fault. That's the way Republican "personal responsibility" works.
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Message 174003 (In Reply to Message 173986)
Posted by rodsmith
on Feb 28, 2006 10:08 PM | Also by rodsmith
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sounds llike it's time to repeal the freedom of expression/press laws and ban those EVIL TV shows!
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Message 174017 (In Reply to Message 174003)
Posted by june5
on Mar 01, 2006 01:04 AM | Also by june5
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Maybe he got the idea from watching one of those helpful "to catch a predator"-type reports.
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Message 174068 (In Reply to Message 174017)
Posted by Valerie
on Mar 01, 2006 05:49 PM | Also by Valerie
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Anyone notice that Prozac, Rod and June5"s only comments about this story were made to jest? Not one word about the 3 year old and or the 10 year old....or the complicated dynamics of the story, you three deserve each other....and old Rod makes this blustering post about the soldier in Korea assaulting the kids and ask if anyone cares? Unbelievable....
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Message 174073 (In Reply to Message 174017)
Posted by Valerie
on Mar 01, 2006 06:53 PM | Also by Valerie
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You know June5 I took a little time, not much and scanned your post to a few threads...In October you came on the site asking advise from the SO's pertaining to your husbands upcoming release and your emotional conflicts associated with it, his attemped rape conviction and your discovery of the 1985 charge. Then in January you posted about the rape at 15 ....this is what I think...I think you werent getting enough play as the wife of an SO and it limited your acceptance in the general forum. So you garnered the rape post in hopes your views would not be challenged in the overall board. I am not saying you were not raped, but what I am wondering is why it took you so long to enter the victims forum with your rape story, and then go on the tangent of people should be more sympathetic to the victims and leave the SO's alone...then daily as I read your post ..your line in the sand is very clear....I dont know why ...and I may be way off base, but something in my gut tells me you owe the people in the victims forum an apology. If I am wrong I apologise, but from PM's I get ...I am not the only person who feels this way...
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Message 174078 (In Reply to Message 174068)
Posted by orolan
on Mar 01, 2006 08:07 PM | Also by orolan
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Not one word about the 3 year old and or the 10 year old...
I notice you have nothing to say about it either. Why talk about the issues when you have a chance to attack somebody, right? Seems to be the rule of the day with the so-called 'advocates' around here.
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Message 174080 (In Reply to Message 173986)
Posted by orolan
on Mar 01, 2006 08:19 PM | Also by orolan
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"I'm sad to hear about that. Something need to be done," says Edith Jones.
That's right, Edith. Let's get something done so this won't ever happen again. I know. Let's enact a 45,000-foot law and a ban on RSO's working at Chik-Fil-A. Keep the RSO's away from the schools and the restaurants and this sort of thing will go away. Yeah. That's it. That will do the trick.
Now if this kid knew he had a person he could talk to about his unhealthy desire for oral sex.......had somebody to talk to about what he saw on television..........had somebody to talk to about the fact that Mom leaves the bedroom door open all the time while having sex with her boyfriend........just plain out had somebody to talk to, maybe this wouldn't have happened. But since I work hard to find a way to provide him and others with that person to talk to, I'm a nasty pervert. Go figure.
I know. Tell him to call the Probation Office.
Kid - I saw this show on TV last night
PO - Really? About what?
Kid - This guy made a boy put his winky in his mouth.
PO - Oh yeah? Was it at Chik-Fil-A?
Kid - No silly, it was at his house.
PO - Oh. Well look, I gotta go. CLICK.
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Message 174085 (In Reply to Message 174068)
Posted by prozac
on Mar 01, 2006 08:33 PM | Also by prozac
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That was not jest at all. No joke at all. All this focusing on sex perverted his mind. That is NOT funny. We will see more and more of the same problem because kids hear it on the news or see it on TV.
Nice try, but my post was genuine concern. No surprise you perverted my post.
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Message 174086 (In Reply to Message 174073)
Posted by prozac
on Mar 01, 2006 08:36 PM | Also by prozac
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but from PM's I get ...I am not the only person who feels this way...
Yeah, all those PM's must be shining examples of LE empathy.
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Message 174094 (In Reply to Message 174068)
valerie
Posted by rodsmith
on Mar 01, 2006 11:12 PM | Also by rodsmith
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i think you are mixing your RSO's again! what post about anything in korea?....also what Jest!!! i'm serious...if it starting to be proven that tv affects people...hell advertisers would die out if it didn't...so if we now have tv shows directly causing sex offenses..well hang the first amend...it's for the children as you keep saying...axe it!
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Message 174110 (In Reply to Message 173986)
Posted by Quest
on Mar 02, 2006 03:32 AM | Also by Quest
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The sick thing is that he was charged with a crime. Kids do this typr of stuff. They know there is something about the opposite sex and they somehow know what it is. without TV. TV and movies and media do however fill in the blanks.
Where are we going to draw the lines. I know we need the lines because a 17 year old boy having oral sex with a 3 year old is a crime but I just don't think this one can be a crime.
If it is. Then we have to admit that the ten yr old knew what he was doing. What can we say then if the ten year old had sex with his 23 year old teacher? How do we flip-flop these kids between victim and criminal?
You know what I feel about this? I feel that the prosecutor that is going forward with this is a pervert and a rapist. Someone getting his jollies interviewing the kids and getting the details.
When I was a boy this would have amounted to a good ass-kicking and then it would never, ever have been mentioned again.
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Message 174113 (In Reply to Message 174068)
Posted by Quest
on Mar 02, 2006 03:33 AM | Also by Quest
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How 'bout it? What sentence would you give this boy? Death? Life without parole? A spanking? a talking too?
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Message 174114 (In Reply to Message 174073)
Posted by Quest
on Mar 02, 2006 03:36 AM | Also by Quest
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In public. On this forum. It is best to take people at their word. I cringe when you attack as well as when you are attacked.
Maybe we all otta get together and have some coffee and see each other's eyes. Let's play nice. Okay?
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Message 174134 (In Reply to Message 174073)
Valerie
Posted by june5
on Mar 02, 2006 06:24 AM | Also by june5
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Well, Val, here is your apology. I am SO SORRY that I don't fit into your little definition of what a "victim" is supposed to be. Since you seem to want an explanation, I will go ahead and indulge you.
I am pretty sure you are correct about the time-line on my posts. I was raped when I was 15. It is something I have very rarely thought about for several years. I posted to this site, as you mentioned, because my husband had been convicted of a sex crime. That was essentially the overriding problem I was dealing with at the time. So I posted here to get advice from the SO's, that is true.
The more that I looked at this site, I noticed all of the different areas and issues that were being discussed. I checked out the victim's forum. I haven't been a "victim" in some time but I was moved by the stories of people who have been recently victimized. I felt bad. I made posts to some of them with whatever advice that I could think of.
Actually, I believe my line in the sand is very clear, also. My line in the sand tends to be that I have empathy for most people. I don't see things in the same "black and white" that you do. Am I supposed to hate my husband, Orolan, or any other SO on this board because I was raped? They weren't the ones who raped me.
I don't know why this particular post angers me the way it does, but I am steaming! I guess you can't put the two together--I was raped and now my husband has recently been convicted of a sex crime. Kind of sucks to be me, doesn't it?
You are saying that I wasn't raped, or else you wouldn't be saying I owed the victim's forum an apology. I invite any interested parties to look up all of the posts I made in the victim's forum. Tell me again what I did wrong?
I really wish we knew each other Val. I would be more than happy to walk you down to the courthouse and show you the file from my case. The guy was acquitted, but I can certainly prove he was prosecuted, and that I was the victim. If you don't believe it, that is your problem.
I guess a victim is supposed to act or think a certain way, or else she isn't a victim.
As far as your PM's, if anybody has anything to say to me about my posts, they can go ahead and PM me personally.
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Message 174147 (In Reply to Message 174114)
Posted by Valerie
on Mar 02, 2006 01:41 PM | Also by Valerie
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Time for another cocktail party I suppose...Ren lightened things up with his scenario of it, maybe its due again...
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Message 174163 (In Reply to Message 174078)
Posted by Valerie
on Mar 02, 2006 03:40 PM | Also by Valerie
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That wasn't an attack, you have witnessed first hand my attacks, I thought I was very nice about it, I apologised if I misunderstood, I didn't accuse her of lying, I don't think she is actually, you Two can interpret my post any way you like, you know I dont care, but I find her motives highly suspect, shouldn't mean a thing to you guys, so why are you jumping in? Oh I forgot!!!!! I posted it ....right!!!!
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Message 174165 (In Reply to Message 174073)
valerie
Posted by cass117
on Mar 02, 2006 03:55 PM | Also by cass117
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valerie you are one nasty individual .how dare you attack her sincerity about being raped but you do it kinda nice like .your no better than a predator yourself the way you attacked her . i cant believe your coldness towards her .you are turning into another anti and people dont like that .we wives of s.os and s.os just might pm about you.
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Message 174184 (In Reply to Message 174110)
Posted by 1dadof5
on Mar 03, 2006 06:50 AM | Also by 1dadof5
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all im thinking about is how this kid is going to be doing 25 years in prison, will get out when he is 36 and will have to wear a GPS, unless he is lucky enough to be molested before his trial. at least then they will be blame it all on some SO somewhere and he will then be declared a victim. you are right quest. Had he been sexually abused by say, a 14 year old, he would be getting the full blown " you poor victim, you'll never be ok again" routine.
lets face it, kids do these things and it should be dealt with on every level EXCEPT the judicial level. our judicial system is full of hypocrites
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Message 174214 (In Reply to Message 174184)
Posted by orolan
on Mar 03, 2006 08:47 PM | Also by orolan
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our judicial system is full of hypocrites
The judicial system mirrors the society that puts it in office. Hypocrites.
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Message 174232 (In Reply to Message 174163)
Val
Posted by june5
on Mar 03, 2006 11:50 PM | Also by june5
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I find her motives highly suspect
That is fine. We don't know each other in real life, but if we did you would know that I pretty much always come right out and say what I think. I' m not one to play little games to try to get people on my side. Actually I'm not really good at it. I'm about as subtle as a mack truck.
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Message 174233 (In Reply to Message 174184)
1dad
Posted by june5
on Mar 03, 2006 11:51 PM | Also by june5
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Is this in Florida? In Florida are they able to charge 10 year olds as adults for this type of crime? In my state there are only certain crimes that kids can be charged as adults for.
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Message 174465 (In Reply to Message 174165)
Posted by Valerie
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Just got back on...Cass dont ever accuse me of being one of them...your another one I am not so sure is gonna make it thru this crap...You like to wallow in a gray area...you like to make excuses for a another human beings lack of judgement...this is one subject that there is no GRAY...when are you going to get this? Its all spelled out in black and white, why dont you wanna get it?
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173986, Navigatr1, Feb 28, 2006 04:42 PM
173994, prozac, Feb 28, 2006 08:52 PM
174003, rodsmith, Feb 28, 2006 10:08 PM
174017, june5, Mar 01, 2006 01:04 AM
174068, Valerie, Mar 01, 2006 05:49 PM
174078, orolan, Mar 01, 2006 08:07 PM
174163, Valerie, Mar 02, 2006 03:40 PM
174232, june5, Mar 03, 2006 11:50 PM [Val]
174470, Rejected
174085, prozac, Mar 01, 2006 08:33 PM
174094, rodsmith, Mar 01, 2006 11:12 PM [valerie]
174113, Quest, Mar 02, 2006 03:33 AM
174073, Valerie, Mar 01, 2006 06:53 PM
174086, prozac, Mar 01, 2006 08:36 PM
174114, Quest, Mar 02, 2006 03:36 AM
174147, Valerie, Mar 02, 2006 01:41 PM
174134, june5, Mar 02, 2006 06:24 AM [Valerie]
174165, cass117, Mar 02, 2006 03:55 PM [valerie]
174465, Valerie, Mar 11, 2006 04:11 AM
174080, orolan, Mar 01, 2006 08:19 PM
174110, Quest, Mar 02, 2006 03:32 AM
174184, 1dadof5, Mar 03, 2006 06:50 AM
174214, orolan, Mar 03, 2006 08:47 PM
174233, june5, Mar 03, 2006 11:51 PM [1dad]
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