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Thread (Discussion): The case of David Ludwig and Kara Beth Borden.

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Message 167671 (In Reply to Message 167656)

Posted by Valerie on Nov 20, 2005 05:09 PM | Also by Valerie

Gender: Female, Age Bracket: 50 - 59, State: Florida, Country: United States

Both of them need a long time to pay for that crime...I dont consider it a sex crime so much as "pre-meditated murder on both their parts...

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really a victim of kidnapping? oh please!

Posted by 1dadof5 on Nov 20, 2005 10:13 AM | Also by 1dadof5

Gender: Male, Age Bracket: 40 - 49, State: Indiana, Country: United States

Im shocked that no one on these forums have brought up the murder of 2 parents and alleged kidnapping of 14 year old Kara Borden by 18 year old David Ludwig.  After all, by most of the poster’s standards on these forums, he IS a sex offender since he just turned 18 and she is 14 and they have been having a sexual relationship for a few months now.

What I cant get over is all the media focus on her being a victim, and how they make it a point to always call him a man and her a child.  I don’t know how much research any of you have done on this case, but Im afraid that anyone who thinks she is an innocent victim in all this are in for a very rude awakening.  
This story caught my attention rather quickly and I have followed this case closely especially when they were caught in my neck of the woods.
Indeed, on the surface it looks like a cut and dry case against Ludwig.  He got mad at Kara’s parents when they forbid him to see her again, so he killed them and then took her against her will.
Sorry to say, I just don’t buy that lame story one darn bit.  I have had the chance to view the complete Xanga, myspace blogs and other information on both of these two on Monday, long before the media drew folks to their existence and they were subsequently removed.  Kara’s blog was by far the most interesting.  First thing I noticed on her myspace was her domain “meant to live” which piqued my interest immediately.  Seems her relationship with her parents was not as rosey as the media would have you to believe. Also, she had posted several photos of herself nearly nude on a private portion of her site (which could considered child porn by some of you).  
And I further will go on to say that SHE, not him, was the one in total control of the relationship.  This guy was absolutely hooked on her and would do anything she asked without question.  Granted, he wasn’t a very good kid either but she was definitely in control of things and while she never directly mentioned wanting rid of her parents, the hints at it are quite ironic indeed.
Another thing that bothers me about this case is how the police are deliberately focusing all their attention on him and are treating her like a victim.  I sure hope they do not botch this investigation and allow her to get away with a crime if in fact she had the involvement that Im almost positive she did.
  I just wanted to go on record as being the first to question this case and wondered how all of you feel about it.
I want to know what you have heard, Myoung since you probably get more localized coverage than others.
Sorry for a long post but I surely thought someone would have brought it up by now.
I will post selected blogs from both Kara and David if need be to support my position as much of it is now inaccessible to you.

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167656, 1dadof5, Nov 20, 2005 10:13 AM [really a victim of kidnapping? oh please!]
167671, Valerie, Nov 20, 2005 05:09 PM
167752, orolan, Nov 21, 2005 06:59 PM

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really a victim of kidnapping? oh please!