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Message 140969 (In Reply to Message 140945)

Posted by Valerie on Nov 11, 2004 11:12 AM | Also by Valerie

Gender: Female, Age Bracket: 50 - 59, State: Florida, Country: United States

In Florida...they do sweeps I think about every 90 days..DP1 would know better than I...to make sure everyone is where they are suppose to be........during those sweeps..if the offender does not have restrictions to internet access...does not mean his computer is not subject to scrutiny either by the PO or the sweeps.....one of the conditions I believe that is imposed on all offenders is not to have contact with other offenders outside court imposed group sessions. It would be considered a violation......so if you have visions of offenders plotting and planning and fueling each other, think again. At least here...but then again DP1 could elaborate more than me...

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Message 140945
Again - no sight of the whole picture

Posted by WMMBS on Nov 10, 2004 04:35 PM | Also by WMMBS

Gender: Male, Age Bracket: 40 - 49, State: N/A, Country: United Kingdom

Dear Dp1, Steve, Valerie,

>Show me sources on violence against SO's BEFORE registries<

There are no such figures, because there were no 'SOR offenders' before registration - can you not see you own logical fallacy?

I am, of course, quite aware that there will always have been attacks on prisoners (SOs more so than others), there always be suicides, before, during and after incarceration - this is the logical outcome of an extreme penal system.

>Before all the sex offender laws there were many more suicides and vigilantism attacks. Prison violence was at it's worst. If anything, violence has decreased.<

I would love to see your stats. The answer to this, is, thank goodness - that is exactly how it should be, and it is my mission to make sure it continues, inside and outside prison.

You are, typically, failing to see the whole picture. Registration is just one aspect of the pariachal persecution of SOs - just one way for society to maintain its false sheen of protection - where little (if any) exists.

Indeed, as you know, recidivism is lower in SOs than anyone else - or it is not? .... in which case your SOR does not work - which one is it to be?

>Show me how suicides have increased instead of decreased.<

See my MBS? links - suicides of the fear of what is to come (including the SOR process) are confirmed in the UK - and that is only for images, let alone 'hands on'. I have done my best, so as to counsel the families left behind, in such case.

This is what I am dealing with, not just the Mickey-Mouse aspect you called 'child/adult protection', which is the SOR. To me, the SOR is a slightly odious, annual irrelevancy.

>One thing for sure. Sex Offender's actions are bad for everyone else's health.<

Sure in your mind - because, you are incapable of seeing where the damage is done - but that is another story

>There's plenty of evidence proving sexual abuse causes harm<

There's plenty of evidence proving sexual activity, later labelled as abuse, causes harm - - but that is another story

>This is why we need protection against them<

But you offer no protection, only notification - there lies your lacuna.

>If you can prove someday that registries cause SO's harm then get the word out and maybe they'll stop reoffending<

I hardly have to get the word out - and see above for my evidence and proof.

You actually believe that anything other but death can stop *any* ex-offender offending, if they decide to do so?

As for further evidence  -  See V's, response,

>People will crush wackos like Sam and if your not careful like you, just like a bug<

… it proves my point, perfectly (see, she likes the idea of death), once again.

WM
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140645, poetsdreamscape, Oct 29, 2004 08:34 PM [some thoughts on this please]
      140648, 1dadof5, Oct 30, 2004 04:36 AM
      140650, clarity5, Oct 30, 2004 09:17 AM
      140651, lildrafire, Oct 30, 2004 01:03 PM [Ploy to get rid of Megan's Law]
            140652, WMMBS, Oct 30, 2004 05:41 PM [Welcome to Your Future]
                  140870, dp1, Nov 09, 2004 01:21 AM [WMMBS]
                        140879, Valerie, Nov 09, 2004 02:52 AM
                              140906, dp1, Nov 09, 2004 02:44 PM [Val]
                                    140918, WMMBS, Nov 09, 2004 10:13 PM [Shocking - you said it]
                                          140921, dp1, Nov 10, 2004 01:22 AM
                                                140926, steve, Nov 10, 2004 04:18 AM
                                                      140934, dp1, Nov 10, 2004 05:58 AM [Steve]
                                                140945, WMMBS, Nov 10, 2004 04:35 PM [Again - no sight of the wh...]
                                                      140969, Valerie, Nov 11, 2004 11:12 AM
                                                141168, exoffender1, Nov 15, 2004 05:22 AM
                                                      141186, dp1, Nov 16, 2004 01:09 AM
                                          140923, Valerie, Nov 10, 2004 03:17 AM
            140663, fallenone, Oct 31, 2004 10:21 PM
                  140667, clarity5, Oct 31, 2004 11:44 PM [fallen]
      140654, dp1, Oct 30, 2004 07:32 PM
            140657, LostTime, Oct 30, 2004 09:25 PM [WOW]
      140848, Silverthorne, Nov 08, 2004 01:33 AM
            140869, Valerie, Nov 09, 2004 12:46 AM
      140891, 1dadof5, Nov 09, 2004 08:00 AM [web address?]
            140916, dp1, Nov 09, 2004 08:27 PM [Dadof5]
      140942, Navigatr1, Nov 10, 2004 02:36 PM [Great Networking Tool]
            140951, 1dadof5, Nov 11, 2004 03:24 AM [nav]
                  140975, Navigatr1, Nov 11, 2004 03:10 PM [I Love The Irony]
                        140982, dp1, Nov 11, 2004 04:55 PM [True]
                              141018, 1dadof5, Nov 12, 2004 05:44 AM [business opportunity]
                                    141040, steve, Nov 13, 2004 01:12 AM
                              141031, LostTime, Nov 12, 2004 09:32 AM [actively discouraged]
                                    141043, 1dadof5, Nov 13, 2004 01:34 AM [steve]
                                          141100, steve, Nov 14, 2004 01:53 AM
                                    141050, dp1, Nov 13, 2004 02:15 AM
                                          141053, 1dadof5, Nov 13, 2004 02:25 AM
                                                141063, dp1, Nov 13, 2004 05:14 AM
                              141096, LostTime, Nov 14, 2004 12:38 AM [no "good" network]
                                    141099, dp1, Nov 14, 2004 01:47 AM
      141079, poetsdreamscape, Nov 13, 2004 05:20 PM [help for rso]
            141087, dp1, Nov 13, 2004 07:08 PM
                  141131, WMMBS, Nov 14, 2004 12:54 PM [Thank you dp1]
                        141157, dp1, Nov 14, 2004 11:32 PM

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