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Message 140926 (In Reply to Message 140921)


Posted by steve on Nov 10, 2004 04:18 AM | Also by steve
Gender: Male, Age Bracket: 30 - 39, State: Virginia, Country: United States
People have been killing each other and themselves since the beginning of time. There is not one shred of evidence that sex offender laws cause death (for the perp that is). Get a grip. Before all the sex offender laws there were many more suicides and vigilantism attacks. Prison violence was at it's worst. If anything, violence has decreased.


Yep. Though I don't know if violence against convicted (or unconvicted) SOs has increased or decreased and if it has what of the large number of factors were the biggest reasons. I've never seen a study correlating violence against convicted SOs to community notification. I do want to note that with over 300,000 convicted SOs (it may even be over 400k) in the U.S. it's not suprising that some find themselves on the wrong end of a murder or assault. As I noted about a year ago in this post, my own city had a murder rate in 2002 of 37.8 per 100,000 residents. If 300,000 U.S. SOs were murdered at the same rate, about 114 per year would be murdered. I'll go out on a limb and say that convicts probably are more likely to be murdered (percentage wise) than those never convicted of a crime so unless convicted SOs buck that trend, it's likely that convicted SOs are more likely to be murdered than the average U.S. citizen, whatever that rate might be (someone can dig it up). I realize not every convicted SO who is murdered will get media coverage, be identified as an SO and be found by someone trying to collect such stories, but there's also no reason to assume a murdered SO was murdered *because* they were an SO.

In fact, if I remember right, there was a story posted here a few months ago about a convicted SO murdered (shot in the head, left in a vehicle) and some here jumped to the conclusion he was murdered b/c he was an SO, but I believe it was quickly discovered that wasn't why he was murdered. Does anyone recall the story? I'll be grateful to anyone who can dig up the article which was either discussed in the General forum or posted to the News Archive and discussed in In the News.

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Message 140921


Posted by dp1 on Nov 10, 2004 01:22 AM | Also by dp1
Gender: Female, Age Bracket: N/A, State: Florida, Country: United States

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140645, poetsdreamscape, Oct 29, 2004 08:34 PM [some thoughts on this please]
      140648, 1dadof5, Oct 30, 2004 04:36 AM
      140650, clarity5, Oct 30, 2004 09:17 AM
      140651, lildrafire, Oct 30, 2004 01:03 PM [Ploy to get rid of Megan's Law]
            140652, WMMBS, Oct 30, 2004 05:41 PM [Welcome to Your Future]
                  140870, dp1, Nov 09, 2004 01:21 AM [WMMBS]
                        140879, Valerie, Nov 09, 2004 02:52 AM
                              140906, dp1, Nov 09, 2004 02:44 PM [Val]
                                    140918, WMMBS, Nov 09, 2004 10:13 PM [Shocking - you said it]
                                          140921, dp1, Nov 10, 2004 01:22 AM
                                                140926, steve, Nov 10, 2004 04:18 AM
                                                      140934, dp1, Nov 10, 2004 05:58 AM [Steve]
                                                140945, WMMBS, Nov 10, 2004 04:35 PM [Again - no sight of the wh...]
                                                      140969, Valerie, Nov 11, 2004 11:12 AM
                                                141168, exoffender1, Nov 15, 2004 05:22 AM
                                                      141186, dp1, Nov 16, 2004 01:09 AM
                                          140923, Valerie, Nov 10, 2004 03:17 AM
            140663, fallenone, Oct 31, 2004 10:21 PM
                  140667, clarity5, Oct 31, 2004 11:44 PM [fallen]
      140654, dp1, Oct 30, 2004 07:32 PM
            140657, LostTime, Oct 30, 2004 09:25 PM [WOW]
      140848, Silverthorne, Nov 08, 2004 01:33 AM
            140869, Valerie, Nov 09, 2004 12:46 AM
      140891, 1dadof5, Nov 09, 2004 08:00 AM [web address?]
            140916, dp1, Nov 09, 2004 08:27 PM [Dadof5]
      140942, Navigatr1, Nov 10, 2004 02:36 PM [Great Networking Tool]
            140951, 1dadof5, Nov 11, 2004 03:24 AM [nav]
                  140975, Navigatr1, Nov 11, 2004 03:10 PM [I Love The Irony]
                        140982, dp1, Nov 11, 2004 04:55 PM [True]
                              141018, 1dadof5, Nov 12, 2004 05:44 AM [business opportunity]
                                    141040, steve, Nov 13, 2004 01:12 AM
                              141031, LostTime, Nov 12, 2004 09:32 AM [actively discouraged]
                                    141043, 1dadof5, Nov 13, 2004 01:34 AM [steve]
                                          141100, steve, Nov 14, 2004 01:53 AM
                                    141050, dp1, Nov 13, 2004 02:15 AM
                                          141053, 1dadof5, Nov 13, 2004 02:25 AM
                                                141063, dp1, Nov 13, 2004 05:14 AM
                              141096, LostTime, Nov 14, 2004 12:38 AM [no "good" network]
                                    141099, dp1, Nov 14, 2004 01:47 AM
      141079, poetsdreamscape, Nov 13, 2004 05:20 PM [help for rso]
            141087, dp1, Nov 13, 2004 07:08 PM
                  141131, WMMBS, Nov 14, 2004 12:54 PM [Thank you dp1]
                        141157, dp1, Nov 14, 2004 11:32 PM
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