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Thread (Discussion): Sex offender arrested in LA model's 1992 slaying

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Message 131002


Posted by dp1 on Apr 21, 2004 02:55 AM | Also by dp1
Gender: Female, Age Bracket: N/A, State: Florida, Country: United States
http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/news/local/states/california/peninsula/8477799.htm?1c

MONTEREY PARK, Calif. - A 40-year-old registered sex offender pleaded innocent Tuesday to the slaying of a professional model whose skeletal remains were found in 1993 in the Angeles National Forest a year after her disappearance, officials said.

David Rademaker of Burbank was indicted by a grand jury on charges of murdering Kimberly Pandelios and the special circumstances of kidnapping and sodomy, the district attorney's office said in a statement. Prosecutors have not made a decision on whether to seek the death penalty.


Boy, I am so happy SO's only re-offend at the rate of either 5 or 10%. How much more can we handle, really? I just can't understand why society wants to keep a short leash on them [sarcasm].

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Message 131007 (In Reply to Message 131002)


Posted by orolan on Apr 21, 2004 03:05 AM | Also by orolan
Gender: Male, Age Bracket: N/A, State: N/A, Country: United States
Considering the amount of information given in the article, I fail to see how you can go ahead and say he is guilty. As I recall reading he plead innocent, not guilty.
It is every bit as plausible that he was arrested because he is an SO as it is that he is actually guilty of the crime.
And I'm so glad we have a jury trial system. Flawed as it may be, it is better than playing judge, jury and executioner based on a newspaper article.

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Message 131010 (In Reply to Message 131007)
Orolan


Posted by dp1 on Apr 21, 2004 03:15 AM | Also by dp1
Gender: Female, Age Bracket: N/A, State: Florida, Country: United States
Dear Mr. Sensitive,

And what did you eat for dinner tonight? Did your Big Mac end up in the wrong orifice and cause indigestion?

Did I ever say he was guilty in my last post? Have you yourself never commented on a story and said you hoped they got 100 years or something to that effect? Oh, but this one is different? It's just one more SO reoffending making all you innocent RSO look bad, am I right?

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Message 131039 (In Reply to Message 131002)
Evidence?


Posted by Silverthorne on Apr 21, 2004 08:06 AM | Also by Silverthorne
Gender: Male, Age Bracket: N/A, State: Arizona, Country: United States
Another sketchy news article. How did they even link a 10 year old skeleton to this guy (how do they prove sodomy on a skeleton too?). Some more details would be nice.

Silverthorne

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Message 131069 (In Reply to Message 131002)


Posted by exoffender1 on Apr 21, 2004 03:36 PM | Also by exoffender1
Gender: Male, Age Bracket: N/A, State: Georgia, Country: United States
Boy, I am so happy SO's only re-offend at the rate of either 5 or 10%. How much more can we handle, really? I just can't understand why society wants to keep a short leash on them [sarcasm].


You have said something similar many times before. To me this implies (so I may be wrong) that you think this justifies Registries and likely its follow-up laws. It doesn't. It does not make sense to have laws that cause so many problems for society in general and specifically for the 90-95% of law abiding FSOs in the hopes/dreams that those laws will prevent perhaps .1% of the crimes committed by the 5-10% of FSOs who re-offend. It certainly makes more sense (but probably not enough) to apply that same effort to different crimes where the recidivism rate is much higher.

The Registries are a joke. The follow-up laws are even more ludicrous. I can see that perhaps the Registries do provide their .1% prevention of the 5-10% of FSOs that re-offend (so what is that of the total sex crimes - maybe .01%?). But anyone who thinks the follow-up laws are preventing anything needs to have his/her head examined. They are laws to pacify the idiots. Nothing more.

Society wants to keep a "short leash" on FSOs because by and large Americans are morons who "think" with their emotions. What they need to understand is that passing new laws that do nothing but punish FSOs or retroactively affect FSOs is unacceptable. It doesn't matter if they think it is or they tell each other it is. It's not. There are people who will legally nullify the laws' effects, exacerbate what they were trying to prevent, and provide negative retribution. I am one of those people and I am constantly encouraging and supporting more people to do the same. Registering me has not prevented ONE single crime. But I've caused plenty of damage and there is plenty more to come.

I'm sorry my message is always so negative. But I feel I've been forced into this position. What I initially did to become an RFSO was offensive. I paid a high price for those transgressions. That was the legal and fair punishment. But it's not okay to keep adding more punishment. It's just not acceptable and there's no way I'm going to allow it.

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Message 131086 (In Reply to Message 131010)


Posted by orolan on Apr 21, 2004 06:21 PM | Also by orolan
Gender: Male, Age Bracket: N/A, State: N/A, Country: United States
Sorry. I had a bad afternoon, and the sarcasm rubbed me the wrong way.

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Message 131154 (In Reply to Message 131069)


Posted by MrTruth on Apr 22, 2004 01:44 AM | Also by MrTruth
Gender: Male, Age Bracket: N/A, State: N/A, Country: United States
The analogy I like to use is from a Larry Niven novel titled "Footfall." Science fiction, alien invaders attacking Earth. The aliens look like baby elephants, but are vicious warriors. When they surrender, they go belly up. To them, that is the ultimate humiliation, and once they offer that sign to whomever has vanquished them, they expect to be taken in and will even change sides. What causes the aliens to go beserk is that the humans don't recognize this act of contrition and continue to shoot at the aliens (naturally, the humans are a little PO'd about being invaded). I went belly up a long time ago, and it pisses me off that I'm still being shot at.

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Message 131473 (In Reply to Message 131154)


Posted by exoffender1 on Apr 24, 2004 04:04 AM | Also by exoffender1
Gender: Male, Age Bracket: N/A, State: Georgia, Country: United States
Interesting analogy and it sounds like a good book.

I was belly up for more than a few years but it just kept getting crazier and crazier. I gradually started revolting against it and just got worse and worse. Frankly, I'm concerned about how much worse I will get. My main goal is to keep all the revolting legal but it's not hard to imagine things taking a turn for the worse. I can tell you for certain that if I am ever arrested for FTR or any of these other BS laws, things are going to get very nasty.

What really set me off here in Georgia and cemented my attitude about all this was the 1,000 foot proximity law passed here about a year ago. I own a lot of homes that I rent and the law made it so I couldn't live in many of them if I wanted. That really offended me. It's just so clearly wrong. I did nothing about it except complain for quite a while but I decided a few months ago that I should do more. So I've been looking for a home to buy that is right across the street from a high school. I'm just going to keep it for personal use - put an office in it, a nice game room, etc. I know a couple of other RFSOs that I trust that I will invite over. That's what their proximity law is going to get them.

Someone on here (don't remember who) not long ago said "it's not personal." Well, it is personal. It's very personal. People who support these laws are dangerous and they are my enemies. I would no more defend them or their rights than they would mine.

I haven't intentionally done anything useful for society for going on a couple of years now. I won't change that until some of this nonsense reverses. I urge every one of the hundreds of thousands RFSOs and FRFSOs to do the same.

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131002, dp1, Apr 21, 2004 02:55 AM
      131007, orolan, Apr 21, 2004 03:05 AM
            131010, dp1, Apr 21, 2004 03:15 AM [Orolan]
                  131086, orolan, Apr 21, 2004 06:21 PM
      131039, Silverthorne, Apr 21, 2004 08:06 AM [Evidence?]
      131069, exoffender1, Apr 21, 2004 03:36 PM
            131154, MrTruth, Apr 22, 2004 01:44 AM
                  131473, exoffender1, Apr 24, 2004 04:04 AM
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