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Message 120353 (In Reply to Message 120352)

Posted by steve on Oct 23, 2003 04:41 PM | Also by steve

Gender: Male, Age Bracket: 30 - 39, State: Virginia, Country: United States

> On the other hand, the felony offense of "indecent exposure" (when you
> masterbate in front of a child) can get sticky. These guys do have a few of
> those charges because it's so easy to say you were urinating when
> in fact you were exposing or masterbating.

That's a good point - I hadn't really considered that before you mentioned it. Though some people point to cases of registered offenders convicted solely of urinating in public when criticizing the sex offender registries, I've never seen details from any such case and I haven't seen evidence that there are many such registered sex offenders. I like to be informed so if anyone can point me to details or statistics I'd appreciate it.

Incidentally, though urinating in public can be disgusting it's sometimes a necessity and unless done in the open, in front of children or when alternatives were available I don't think society or law enforcement cares and I don't think either would consider a single act of public urination in of itself a sex offense.

Over Labor Day weekend I ran in a large half marathon (15,000+ runners) and due to long portable toilet lines before the race hundreds of people urinated in public, many in plain view of law enforcement. I was one of them.

Don't get me wrong, I don't think people should be urinating in public if they can help it. If someone comes into my driveway and urinates on my car or does it next to some children when he could have gone behind a dumpster I think they should suffer the consequences. And maybe they should be given the benefit of the doubt on the "I was just getting ready to urinate" defense, but if someone does it repeatedly I'd be more inclined to think they're a flasher and less inclined to believe they have a weak bladder.

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Message 120352
Is There a Risk?

Posted by dp1 on Oct 23, 2003 04:05 PM | Also by dp1

Gender: Female, Age Bracket: N/A, State: Florida, Country: United States

Thanks Orolan. Although it is cleary nasty to urinate in public (continuously) I wonder what risk these people really are to the community. I guess if they were hanging around your front yard and urinated on your rose garden you may have some dead flowers to tend with. Or up North where there is snow I guess the risk of yellow snow can be increase. I have not found my felony cases (the real risk we are concerned about) to have an excessive amount of offenses such as urination in public.

On the other hand, the felony offense of "indecent exposure" (when you masterbate in front of a child) can get sticky. These guys do have a few of those charges because it's so easy to say you were urinating when in fact you were exposing or masterbating. So while I understand the logic behind prosecuting urination under indecent exposure I tend to think once or twice may not be a risk,,,but 3 or 4 times? At some point, these nasty people need to learn where the public restrooms are.

In any event, I agree in general terms that peeing people should not be on the registry. Maybe probation with a mandatory urology evaluation would be more appropriate.

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120270, orolan, Oct 21, 2003 06:45 PM ["Ready, Fire, Aim"]
      120271, steve, Oct 21, 2003 07:11 PM [Posting news articles to the General forum fine ...]
      120273, HPierce, Oct 21, 2003 08:48 PM [Between a rock and a hard place]
            120276, myoung, Oct 21, 2003 09:31 PM [H.Pierce]
                  120279, orolan, Oct 21, 2003 10:59 PM [My two cents]
                        120307, myoung, Oct 22, 2003 05:23 AM [orolan]
                              120318, orolan, Oct 22, 2003 02:46 PM
                        120308, Rejected
      120277, Silverthorne, Oct 21, 2003 09:57 PM [I think that says it all]
            120316, dp1, Oct 22, 2003 12:50 PM [Urinating in Public Pisses Me Off]
                  120320, orolan, Oct 22, 2003 03:25 PM [Michigan law]
                        120339, dp1, Oct 23, 2003 12:30 AM [Qualifying Offenses]
                              120340, orolan, Oct 23, 2003 02:14 AM [Laws]
                                    120352, dp1, Oct 23, 2003 04:05 PM [Is There a Risk?]
                                          120353, steve, Oct 23, 2003 04:41 PM
      120280, DoTheCrimeDoTheTime, Oct 21, 2003 11:07 PM [Florida Has It]
            120291, Silverthorne, Oct 22, 2003 12:55 AM [DTCDTT]
            120319, orolan, Oct 22, 2003 02:55 PM [Florida registry]
                  120348, myoung, Oct 23, 2003 05:55 AM [orolan check out NJ]

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