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Message 120423 (In Reply to Message 120301)
Wrong again, marta

Posted by HPierce on Oct 24, 2003 08:22 PM | Also by HPierce

Gender: Male, Age Bracket: 50 - 59, State: N/A, Country: United States

marta attempts:
>>>
LET ME SUM UP:
Survivor said (in the old AND new forum) that rape victims who post about their experiences frequently meet with suspicion.
>>>>
Your lack of details will be your worst enemy if and when you pass your bar exam.

Her statement on this board DOES NOT SAY "experiences frequently meet with suspicion"

She said in this thread "...what is the first thing MOST of the posters
> say????They don’t believe them at all.
>>>

I hate to burst your bubble again but she clearly said THEY DON'T BELIEVE THEM AT ALL. That is a far cry from "frequently met with suspicion".

Suspicion indicates that the person's mind isn't necessarily made up, but that they question something about the statement(s).

If you say someone doesn't BELIEVE IT AT ALL.. that implies that their mind has already been made up.

So while the two may have the same meaning to you... they sure don't to me. Saying I'm suspicious about comments in a document means there is room for discussion and/or clarification. If I say I don't believe your document at all... that isn't the same at all.

H. Pierce (glad to point these facts out for marta's education)

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Message 120301
Read More Carefully, Piercy

Posted by marta on Oct 22, 2003 02:53 AM | Also by marta

Gender: Female, Age Bracket: 30 - 39, State: N/A, Country: United States

SURVIVOR POSTED IN THIS THREAD:
>>>
Ironically, if we all look and the number of women who post 
> to this board alone, who are looking for help in a rape 
> situation., what is the first thing MOST of the posters 
> say????They don’t believe them at all.

TO WHICH YOU RESPONDED:
Name one poster... cut and paste comments from MOST of the posters on this board that do not belive rapes happen. I was disgusted with that sexist comment. I've never seen evidence that ANYONE on this board didn't believe rapes happen.

TO WHICH I RESPONDED:
That's not what she wrote. She said that, when people post to this board about their rape experiences, the response from the board community is often unnecessarily suspicious and defensive.

TO WHICH YOU REPLIED:
Her intent may have been that(from the old message board) but that isn't what the above says.  It says rape victims who post here find that most posters don't believe them at all.  I'm not reading anything in what she wrote.  Thanks for your interpretation but your response isn't what she is saying above.  That is all.
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LET ME SUM UP:
Survivor said (in the old AND new forum) that rape victims who post about their experiences frequently meet with suspicion.

To which I replied that I could see why she thought so, but that such suspicion is understandable given the composition of the messageboard community.

Then you come in with some hysterical, IRRELEVANT, and nonsensical post accusing her of implying that the posters at sexcriminals.com don't believe that rape occurs (which wasn't her point), and suggest that she is sexist (which would only make sense if all of the posters who questioned such stories were male - which they weren't).
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NEXT, YOU CUT AND PASTED:
marta says:
>>>
the response from the board community is often unnecessarily suspicious and defensive.
>>>>

I think that depends on what facts the 'alleged victim' gives the posters to go on.  In my opinion most victims on this forum get treated with 'kid gloves' unless they present obviously flawed or biased accounts.
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Too bad you have such selective reading habits.  The quote of mine that you cut and pasted was my description of what Survivor thought, not what I thought.  If you weren't so busy reading your own posts, you'd know that I have been one of the harshest critics of one of the posters talking about their rape experience.  You would also realize that I was defending most of the people here at sexcriminals.

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120054, SurvivorForever, Oct 18, 2003 06:45 AM
      120083, HPierce, Oct 19, 2003 02:59 AM [Sexist comment??]
            120128, DoTheCrimeDoTheTime, Oct 19, 2003 11:32 PM [Take A Look]
                  120130, steve, Oct 19, 2003 11:41 PM
                  120139, simon, Oct 20, 2003 01:14 AM
                        120170, SurvivorForever, Oct 20, 2003 05:56 AM [Simon]
                              120192, simon, Oct 20, 2003 03:02 PM
                        120250, HPierce, Oct 21, 2003 02:13 PM [I agree]
                              120299, marta, Oct 22, 2003 02:31 AM
                                    120314, HPierce, Oct 22, 2003 11:45 AM [Your point??]
                                          120317, marta, Oct 22, 2003 02:06 PM [You misunderstood]
                                                120422, HPierce, Oct 24, 2003 08:03 PM [No, I understood]
                        120256, dp1, Oct 21, 2003 03:13 PM [To Simon - Empathy]
                  120248, HPierce, Oct 21, 2003 02:02 PM [Not exactly]
                        120281, DoTheCrimeDoTheTime, Oct 21, 2003 11:12 PM [Look At The Numbers]
                              120290, Silverthorne, Oct 22, 2003 12:54 AM [DTCDTT]
                              120293, lj, Oct 22, 2003 01:07 AM [Doubt ratios]
                              120294, simon, Oct 22, 2003 01:07 AM
                              120321, orolan, Oct 22, 2003 03:52 PM [Yes. Lets look at the numbers, DTCDTT]
                        120402, myoung, Oct 24, 2003 05:27 AM [H. P. and silver...no resonse]
            120136, marta, Oct 20, 2003 12:32 AM [Reply to what was actually posted]
                  120251, HPierce, Oct 21, 2003 02:24 PM [That isn't what she said.]
                        120274, marta, Oct 21, 2003 09:03 PM [Kanin]
                              120282, HPierce, Oct 21, 2003 11:32 PM [Nothing to discuss]
                                    120298, marta, Oct 22, 2003 02:25 AM [That's What You Think]
                                          120304, steve, Oct 22, 2003 03:42 AM [Hold off a week or two?]
                                          120315, HPierce, Oct 22, 2003 12:27 PM [Ohh come now...]
                                                120337, marta, Oct 23, 2003 12:01 AM [We'll see]
                        120301, marta, Oct 22, 2003 02:53 AM [Read More Carefully, Piercy]
                              120341, SurvivorForever, Oct 23, 2003 02:37 AM [Two Answers]
                                    120424, HPierce, Oct 24, 2003 08:44 PM [You answered my question, surv...]
                              120423, HPierce, Oct 24, 2003 08:22 PM [Wrong again, marta]
                                    120441, SurvivorForever, Oct 25, 2003 02:59 AM [Marta - You are still ...]
                                    120475, marta, Oct 25, 2003 05:41 PM
      120105, orolan, Oct 19, 2003 04:11 PM [What am I missing?]
            120156, myoung, Oct 20, 2003 04:30 AM [orolan]
            120157, Rejected
      120407, tessa, Oct 24, 2003 01:09 PM [Irrational?]
            120412, orolan, Oct 24, 2003 03:47 PM [Why are there so many?]
                  120438, PVulcan, Oct 25, 2003 02:05 AM [hot topic?]
                        120456, myoung, Oct 25, 2003 04:06 AM [Hi P Vulcan]
                              120458, PVulcan, Oct 25, 2003 04:55 AM
                                    120471, orolan, Oct 25, 2003 02:18 PM [news worthy]
                        120470, orolan, Oct 25, 2003 02:09 PM [Hot Topic]
                              120473, PVulcan, Oct 25, 2003 04:30 PM
                                    120522, orolan, Oct 26, 2003 06:17 PM

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Message 120423 (In Reply to Message 120301)Wrong again, marta

Message 120301Read More Carefully, Piercy

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Thread (Discussion): To: Marta Continued

Message 120423 (In Reply to Message 120301)
Wrong again, marta

Message 120301
Read More Carefully, Piercy