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Thread (Discussion): Should bad parents be allowed to have children? Registry?

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Message 163754 (In Reply to Message 163652)

Posted by rebel51 on Oct 07, 2005 09:47 AM | Also by rebel51

Gender: Female, Age Bracket: 50 - 59, State: California, Country: United States

I completely understand what you are saying and from your point of view, your horror is wayyyyyyyy worse than my horror! I would NEVER belittle what you or your sister went thru. I would NEVER try to say that one is worse than the other! They are BOTH abuse and horrible. I am not going to go into the mental issues I have or what I have gone thru in my life to get past what was done to me. Is MY pain worse than YOUR pain? absolutly not! However I will not EVER say that my pain was any LESS than yours eather! MY pain was just as horrifying as yours, MY life trama's and issues are just as important as yours are....the same as each person who has lived thru any abuse will feel that thier pain was the worst and NO ONE else will ever understand what they went thru etc etc....
He did not state that it was bad...he stated that

I have to disagree with you Dp1. A crime is a crime. Morally you may believe like many do that sexual abuse is the worst thing in the world, but it's only that "bad" because you believe it in your head.

Perhaps this will be hard to follow because I think a bit different.

Anyhow, you do not take a childs "innocence" away by sexual abusing them. Perhaps you take a parent's away, but not a childs. A parent is the one who now believes there is something wrong with the child, that there will always be.

In fact it states that it is ONLY BAD in your HEAD!!! I still state that ONLY a child molester would EVER make a statement like that!!

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Message 163652

Posted by joy1234 on Oct 06, 2005 11:45 AM | Also by joy1234

Gender: Female, Age Bracket: 40 - 49, State: New York, Country: United States

I think what he meant was that it is bad but you can get over it and that life in general will take away a childs innocence. I just had this conversation yesterday and I will compare sex offenses to child abuse.  Physical and mental abuse is just as bad if not worse than sexual abuse. it is the rape of the child as a whole, the mind the body and the spirit.  Sexual abuse if not to a severe extreme can be treated, there can be a light at the end of the tunnel.  Physical and mental abuse is sooo much harder to get past.  Maybe for the people who say it is not, have never had their heads banged on a sink until it split open, or put into a bathtub full of ice cold water with someone taking their head and holding it under until they can't breathe, or locked naked in a attic or a cellar for hours without food for a day or two, or beat with a belt so long and hard that you thought you would pass out from the pain. Or maybe they were never told on a daily basis that they were ugly and worthless and how they would never amount to anything and how when you prayed to GOD to help you, they were beaten again because you were told you were not worthy of GOD and how dare you call his name.  I watch and listen to one of sister's who is forever ruined not because of her being sexually abused but because my mother took her soul away and broke her heart forever, leaving her in shattered pieces because there is no answer for someone who has no maternal instict, there is no cure for that, no amount of jail or therapy can instill it. In therapy we came to grips and learned to understand that the sexual abuse was not our fault, our father also let use know that he was the sick one not us, he admitted his crimes and tried hard to be a better parent, that was not true of the other and no therapist could ever make us understand how one could hate your own children from birth.

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120016, Silverthorne, Oct 17, 2003 06:52 AM [Do we need a registry for bad parents to prev...]
      120038, dp1, Oct 18, 2003 02:07 AM [The Mother Was a Pig]
            120042, simon, Oct 18, 2003 02:46 AM
                  120046, dp1, Oct 18, 2003 03:54 AM [Yes Simon Let's Get Real]
                        120057, SurvivorForever, Oct 18, 2003 07:51 AM [Thank YOU! DP1]
                        120068, orolan, Oct 18, 2003 02:29 PM [Talking about sex]
                        120078, simon, Oct 18, 2003 07:22 PM
                              120079, dp1, Oct 18, 2003 09:45 PM [Reply to Simon]
                                    120095, simon, Oct 19, 2003 06:36 AM
                                          120108, dp1, Oct 19, 2003 05:15 PM [Reply to Simon]
                              120087, myoung, Oct 19, 2003 06:03 AM [okay simon, let's call it what it is]
                                    120111, orolan, Oct 19, 2003 05:43 PM [To DP1 and myoung]
                                    120124, simon, Oct 19, 2003 08:55 PM
            120059, Silverthorne, Oct 18, 2003 09:31 AM [Reply for DP1]
            163429, Scaye, Oct 04, 2005 05:38 AM
                  163649, rebel51, Oct 06, 2005 08:34 AM
                        163652, joy1234, Oct 06, 2005 11:45 AM
                              163754, rebel51, Oct 07, 2005 09:47 AM
                                    163760, Rejected
      120049, myoung, Oct 18, 2003 04:13 AM [Scary]
            120060, Silverthorne, Oct 18, 2003 09:35 AM [Sick of kids]
                  120142, Rachel, Oct 20, 2003 01:31 AM [The right to have kids.]
                        120144, myoung, Oct 20, 2003 02:14 AM [to Rachel]
                        120145, Rejected
                        163443, rebel51, Oct 04, 2005 09:59 AM
            164445, iastatso, Oct 13, 2005 05:50 PM
      163264, prozac, Oct 02, 2005 05:39 AM
            163301, Renunciation, Oct 02, 2005 07:40 PM
                  163394, victorialondon, Oct 03, 2005 05:46 PM [But they are Children.......]
                        163404, Renunciation, Oct 03, 2005 08:09 PM
                              163440, rebel51, Oct 04, 2005 09:02 AM
                                    163444, rebel51, Oct 04, 2005 10:08 AM
                                    163484, Renunciation, Oct 04, 2005 04:12 PM
                                          163648, rebel51, Oct 06, 2005 08:23 AM
                                                163683, Renunciation, Oct 06, 2005 04:10 PM
                                          163689, iastatso, Oct 06, 2005 04:34 PM
                              163495, victorialondon, Oct 04, 2005 05:45 PM [If you want that read Desmo...]

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