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Thread (Discussion): Should bad parents be allowed to have children? Registry?

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Message 120087 (In Reply to Message 120078)
okay simon, let's call it what it is

Posted by myoung on Oct 19, 2003 06:03 AM | Also by myoung

Gender: N/A, Age Bracket: N/A, State: Pennsylvania, Country: United States

Simon, a decent human being does not try to minimize in any way a crime against a child. Maybe what we should call it is the rape of a soul. No court in the world has yet to prove or disprove the existence of a "soul" so let's call it that shall we. It is the very essence of what makes a child just that, a child. You can try and get technical all you want but it is what it is.......a crime against innocence! No one has that right. I read the statutes that were posted. Maybe I am illiterate but I did not read anything about "talking" to a minor about sex. I read lots about soliciting, coercing, etc. but not talking. However we need to justify our thoughts is not, in itself, justification!

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Message 120078

Posted by simon on Oct 18, 2003 07:22 PM | Also by simon

Gender: Male, Age Bracket: N/A, State: Oregon, Country: United States

"how many people do I know who are convicted sex offenders where their only offense was talking to minors about sex? Now wait a minute...I have to really think about this one...OOPPPs the answer is ZERO.? "

You know of at least one through this board.

"By the way, is there even a statute in any state in the US where talking about sex with minors is prohibited?"

Orolan has also provided a few statutes in different states that indicate that talking to a minor about sex can be a risky venture.

"...so we could all educate ourselves on how an adult could be guilty of a Felony sex crime by talking about sex with a minor...and have to register as a result."

We can see that Orolan's case it certainly was...resulting in a felony conviction tht requires registration. So far...you're 0 for 3 DP1.

As far as minimizing sex crimes. I am not doing that. But I'm not allowing you too misrepresent ALL sex crimes as "rape of a child" and therefore (in your blatant exaggeration) as the worst crime  -- in ALL cases -- of any except murder.

Sex offenses occur in a wide range of degree: from touching of a breast or talking to a minor to the extreme -- and comparatively rare -- violently forced rapes. I do not minimize violent rape (of anyone) and likewise non-violent sexual offenses should not be misrepresented just to advance an agenda. Just as you oppose what you feel is that minimizing of sexual offenses by some on this board I oppose the misrepresentation of sexual offenses as ALL violent, ALL "rape of a child", ALL serial multiple offenses.

BTW, rather than saying that  "most sex offenses against children are actually sex offenses against children" as you do, I would ALL of them are.

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120016, Silverthorne, Oct 17, 2003 06:52 AM [Do we need a registry for bad parents to prev...]
      120038, dp1, Oct 18, 2003 02:07 AM [The Mother Was a Pig]
            120042, simon, Oct 18, 2003 02:46 AM
                  120046, dp1, Oct 18, 2003 03:54 AM [Yes Simon Let's Get Real]
                        120057, SurvivorForever, Oct 18, 2003 07:51 AM [Thank YOU! DP1]
                        120068, orolan, Oct 18, 2003 02:29 PM [Talking about sex]
                        120078, simon, Oct 18, 2003 07:22 PM
                              120079, dp1, Oct 18, 2003 09:45 PM [Reply to Simon]
                                    120095, simon, Oct 19, 2003 06:36 AM
                                          120108, dp1, Oct 19, 2003 05:15 PM [Reply to Simon]
                              120087, myoung, Oct 19, 2003 06:03 AM [okay simon, let's call it what it is]
                                    120111, orolan, Oct 19, 2003 05:43 PM [To DP1 and myoung]
                                    120124, simon, Oct 19, 2003 08:55 PM
            120059, Silverthorne, Oct 18, 2003 09:31 AM [Reply for DP1]
            163429, Scaye, Oct 04, 2005 05:38 AM
                  163649, rebel51, Oct 06, 2005 08:34 AM
                        163652, joy1234, Oct 06, 2005 11:45 AM
                              163754, rebel51, Oct 07, 2005 09:47 AM
                                    163760, Rejected
      120049, myoung, Oct 18, 2003 04:13 AM [Scary]
            120060, Silverthorne, Oct 18, 2003 09:35 AM [Sick of kids]
                  120142, Rachel, Oct 20, 2003 01:31 AM [The right to have kids.]
                        120144, myoung, Oct 20, 2003 02:14 AM [to Rachel]
                        120145, Rejected
                        163443, rebel51, Oct 04, 2005 09:59 AM
            164445, iastatso, Oct 13, 2005 05:50 PM
      163264, prozac, Oct 02, 2005 05:39 AM
            163301, Renunciation, Oct 02, 2005 07:40 PM
                  163394, victorialondon, Oct 03, 2005 05:46 PM [But they are Children.......]
                        163404, Renunciation, Oct 03, 2005 08:09 PM
                              163440, rebel51, Oct 04, 2005 09:02 AM
                                    163444, rebel51, Oct 04, 2005 10:08 AM
                                    163484, Renunciation, Oct 04, 2005 04:12 PM
                                          163648, rebel51, Oct 06, 2005 08:23 AM
                                                163683, Renunciation, Oct 06, 2005 04:10 PM
                                          163689, iastatso, Oct 06, 2005 04:34 PM
                              163495, victorialondon, Oct 04, 2005 05:45 PM [If you want that read Desmo...]

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okay simon, let's call it what it is