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Thread (Discussion): Should bad parents be allowed to have children? Registry?

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Message 120078 (In Reply to Message 120046)

Posted by simon on Oct 18, 2003 07:22 PM | Also by simon

Gender: Male, Age Bracket: 40 - 49, State: Oregon, Country: United States

"how many people do I know who are convicted sex offenders where their only offense was talking to minors about sex? Now wait a minute...I have to really think about this one...OOPPPs the answer is ZERO.? "

You know of at least one through this board.

"By the way, is there even a statute in any state in the US where talking about sex with minors is prohibited?"

Orolan has also provided a few statutes in different states that indicate that talking to a minor about sex can be a risky venture.

"...so we could all educate ourselves on how an adult could be guilty of a Felony sex crime by talking about sex with a minor...and have to register as a result."

We can see that Orolan's case it certainly was...resulting in a felony conviction tht requires registration. So far...you're 0 for 3 DP1.

As far as minimizing sex crimes. I am not doing that. But I'm not allowing you too misrepresent ALL sex crimes as "rape of a child" and therefore (in your blatant exaggeration) as the worst crime -- in ALL cases -- of any except murder.

Sex offenses occur in a wide range of degree: from touching of a breast or talking to a minor to the extreme -- and comparatively rare -- violently forced rapes. I do not minimize violent rape (of anyone) and likewise non-violent sexual offenses should not be misrepresented just to advance an agenda. Just as you oppose what you feel is that minimizing of sexual offenses by some on this board I oppose the misrepresentation of sexual offenses as ALL violent, ALL "rape of a child", ALL serial multiple offenses.

BTW, rather than saying that "most sex offenses against children are actually sex offenses against children" as you do, I would ALL of them are.

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Message 120046
Yes Simon Let's Get Real

Posted by dp1 on Oct 18, 2003 03:54 AM | Also by dp1

Gender: Female, Age Bracket: N/A, State: Florida, Country: United States

Let's see...how many people do I know who are convicted sex offenders where their only offense was talking to minors about sex?   Now wait a minute...I have to really think about this one...OOPPPs the answer is ZERO. By the way, is there even a statute in any state in the US where talking about sex with minors is prohibited?  If there is Simon, please feel free to enlighten me and don't be shy...let's post the statute right up here so we could all educate ourselves on how an adult could be guilty of a Felony sex crime by talking about sex with a minor...and have to register as a result.

So let's not minimize what the typical sex crime is. There might be one in a thousand who only touched a breast...or tried to penetrate but couldn't...but for the most part the sexual assaults that are actually prosecuted are very damaging.

I do not disagree that maybe one specific case somewhere in the world discussed here may not fit the typical mold of society's view of a child molester. What I oppose to is the distorted view that some on this board seem to engage in where minimizing seems to be the norm. I have worked sex crimes for over 15 years. People are committing unspeakable crimes every single day. I have not seen where sex offenders have to register for  urinating in public, grabbing a butt, or for talking dirty to a teenager. Most sex offenses against children are actually sex offenses against children...no there's a concept!

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120016, Silverthorne, Oct 17, 2003 06:52 AM [Do we need a registry for bad parents to prev...]
      120038, dp1, Oct 18, 2003 02:07 AM [The Mother Was a Pig]
            120042, simon, Oct 18, 2003 02:46 AM
                  120046, dp1, Oct 18, 2003 03:54 AM [Yes Simon Let's Get Real]
                        120057, SurvivorForever, Oct 18, 2003 07:51 AM [Thank YOU! DP1]
                        120068, orolan, Oct 18, 2003 02:29 PM [Talking about sex]
                        120078, simon, Oct 18, 2003 07:22 PM
                              120079, dp1, Oct 18, 2003 09:45 PM [Reply to Simon]
                                    120095, simon, Oct 19, 2003 06:36 AM
                                          120108, dp1, Oct 19, 2003 05:15 PM [Reply to Simon]
                              120087, myoung, Oct 19, 2003 06:03 AM [okay simon, let's call it what it is]
                                    120111, orolan, Oct 19, 2003 05:43 PM [To DP1 and myoung]
                                    120124, simon, Oct 19, 2003 08:55 PM
            120059, Silverthorne, Oct 18, 2003 09:31 AM [Reply for DP1]
            163429, Scaye, Oct 04, 2005 05:38 AM
                  163649, rebel51, Oct 06, 2005 08:34 AM
                        163652, joy1234, Oct 06, 2005 11:45 AM
                              163754, rebel51, Oct 07, 2005 09:47 AM
                                    163760, Rejected
      120049, myoung, Oct 18, 2003 04:13 AM [Scary]
            120060, Silverthorne, Oct 18, 2003 09:35 AM [Sick of kids]
                  120142, Rachel, Oct 20, 2003 01:31 AM [The right to have kids.]
                        120144, myoung, Oct 20, 2003 02:14 AM [to Rachel]
                        120145, Rejected
                        163443, rebel51, Oct 04, 2005 09:59 AM
            164445, iastatso, Oct 13, 2005 05:50 PM
      163264, prozac, Oct 02, 2005 05:39 AM
            163301, Renunciation, Oct 02, 2005 07:40 PM
                  163394, victorialondon, Oct 03, 2005 05:46 PM [But they are Children.......]
                        163404, Renunciation, Oct 03, 2005 08:09 PM
                              163440, rebel51, Oct 04, 2005 09:02 AM
                                    163444, rebel51, Oct 04, 2005 10:08 AM
                                    163484, Renunciation, Oct 04, 2005 04:12 PM
                                          163648, rebel51, Oct 06, 2005 08:23 AM
                                                163683, Renunciation, Oct 06, 2005 04:10 PM
                                          163689, iastatso, Oct 06, 2005 04:34 PM
                              163495, victorialondon, Oct 04, 2005 05:45 PM [If you want that read Desmo...]

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