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Thread (Discussion): Is Prevention even possible without understanding?

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Message 120039 (In Reply to Message 120015)
You Can't Prevent Something From Nothing

Posted by dp1 on Oct 18, 2003 02:26 AM | Also by dp1

Gender: Female, Age Bracket: N/A, State: Florida, Country: United States

Silver,
I know you mean well and share your desire for intervention prior to abuse. But as we both can see not all people that have pedophilia think it's wrong for minors to have sex. How can you blame society for their failure to accept pedophilia and treat it when the problem clearly is the pedophiles who believe minors could or should have sex if they want to and deny having a problem themselves?

You know that T-shirt that was so popular in the 70's that said:

I Drink
I Get Drunk
No Problem

That's how I see pedophilia mainly...for the most part they honestly see no problem with it......so few actually believe that it is wrong so how can these folks get help if they don't think they have a problem? That's exactly why the laws got stiffer and stiffer...to force these guys into treatment. So what I am saying is, I think it's a pipedream to hope that society will change....if society continues to become less tolerant than maybe someday some folks will actually change their minds and start to think sex with minors is not a good thing...what do you think about that?

DP1

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Message 120015
Is Prevention even possible without understanding?

Posted by Silverthorne on Oct 17, 2003 06:43 AM | Also by Silverthorne

Gender: Male, Age Bracket: N/A, State: Arizona, Country: United States

Many people advocate prevention in child molestation.  The problem is their idea of prevention is a sex offender registry or a long jail sentence.  The problem is for these to do any good a child has already been molested.

Real prevention would involve understanding pedophilia and what it is NOT.  Pedophilia doesn't mean child molestation.  While the media constantly plays this up they are two very different things.

Pedophilia is a sexual attraction to pre-pubsecent children which has been present over six months.  Thats a simplified description of the very long one from the DSM-IV manual used by the psychiatric community.

For people to understand Pedophilia they need to know there is a difference.  Much of society today incorrectly connects it with child molesting.  Often the name "pedophile" in an article is a scarlet letter.  The problem is the word is so misused.

Back to the original issue here - prevention.  The key to prevention is understanding.  Why is that?  Because understanding leads to a willingness to offer help.  People need to feel safe asking for help before they'll do so.  If the climate socially is one of hatred and intolerance we can't expect people with pedophilia symptoms to voluntarily ask for help.

To really PREVENT child molestation we must get these people into professional help BEFORE they act out.  Anything else is a failure.

So no.  Prevention isnt possible without understanding.  Real prevention that is.

Silverthorne

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120015, Silverthorne, Oct 17, 2003 06:43 AM [Is Prevention even possible without understan...]
      120021, HPierce, Oct 17, 2003 04:31 PM [Better yet]
            120025, orolan, Oct 17, 2003 05:57 PM [AOC idiocy]
                  120027, betsemes, Oct 17, 2003 06:40 PM
                        120033, orolan, Oct 17, 2003 10:50 PM [chastity]
                              120050, dp1, Oct 18, 2003 04:50 AM [Prior Abuse or Sex Acts?]
                                    120067, orolan, Oct 18, 2003 01:34 PM [Culpability]
                              120056, SurvivorForever, Oct 18, 2003 07:30 AM
                                    120113, orolan, Oct 19, 2003 05:59 PM
                                          120773, marta, Oct 31, 2003 02:45 PM [You and teenaged girls]
                  120487, marta, Oct 26, 2003 12:31 AM
                        120512, ladyjane, Oct 26, 2003 03:18 PM [So somebody help me understand.]
                              120515, orolan, Oct 26, 2003 04:48 PM [reply to LadyJane]
                              120550, marta, Oct 27, 2003 04:26 AM [Come again?]
                        120514, orolan, Oct 26, 2003 04:44 PM [AOC]
                              120551, marta, Oct 27, 2003 04:38 AM [Stand down]
                                    120580, orolan, Oct 27, 2003 07:54 PM
                                          120602, marta, Oct 28, 2003 01:05 AM [Ah, I see.]
                                                120625, orolan, Oct 28, 2003 09:24 PM
                                                      120672, marta, Oct 29, 2003 03:06 PM
                                                            120703, orolan, Oct 30, 2003 12:20 AM
                                                                  120723, marta, Oct 30, 2003 03:10 PM
                                          120603, Rejected
                              120573, myoung, Oct 27, 2003 04:31 PM [orolan.....virginity]
                                    120575, steve, Oct 27, 2003 05:00 PM
            120051, dp1, Oct 18, 2003 05:04 AM [Minors Are Too Young To Consent]
                  120114, orolan, Oct 19, 2003 06:26 PM [terminology]
      120039, dp1, Oct 18, 2003 02:26 AM [You Can't Prevent Something From Nothing]
            120061, Silverthorne, Oct 18, 2003 09:38 AM [Your right DP1]
      120161, Dragonfly, Oct 20, 2003 04:49 AM [An Addendum]
            120199, Silverthorne, Oct 20, 2003 04:37 PM [Depends]
                  120242, myoung, Oct 21, 2003 04:52 AM [just plain crazy]
                        120261, orolan, Oct 21, 2003 04:15 PM [rewire]
                              120309, myoung, Oct 22, 2003 05:49 AM [girl rewired]
                                    120323, orolan, Oct 22, 2003 04:15 PM [Clarification]
                  120245, Dragonfly, Oct 21, 2003 07:54 AM
                        120247, dp1, Oct 21, 2003 01:21 PM [Help = $$$$$]
      120182, myoung, Oct 20, 2003 01:33 PM [Dragonfly]
      120183, Rejected
      120594, myoung, Oct 27, 2003 11:41 PM [You go steve!!]
            120600, steve, Oct 28, 2003 12:14 AM
                  120601, steve, Oct 28, 2003 12:16 AM
      120595, Rejected
      120596, Rejected

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Thread (Discussion): Is Prevention even possible without understanding?

Message 120039 (In Reply to Message 120015)
You Can't Prevent Something From Nothing

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Is Prevention even possible without understanding?