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Thread (Discussion): Teen guilty in daycare rape


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Message 120275 (In Reply to Message 120262)
prime example(sorry it's kinda long)


Posted by
myoung on Oct 21, 2003 09:23 PM | Also by myoung
Gender: N/A, Age Bracket: N/A, State: Pennsylvania, Country: United States

My daughter came home last week and told me that one of her friends just found out she is pregnant. My daughter is 15 and her friend was fifeen when she got prego but just turned 16 recently.. She also went on to answer some questions I had about culpability, education, responsibility, liability, etc. She and I talk often so she has a rather excellent grasp of consequence and how I feel about things, etc. She told me her friend said it was an oops but they did know what they were doing. The boy is the same age as they are so there isn't much legality to it with the exception of monetary support etc. Seems to me that the more I talk to my daughter about their peer groups and what they understand, they understand far more than people give them credit for at age 15 (I do remember myself at 15.....pretty scary some of the things I did with regard to dating because I didn't look my age)!! My point is, this girl is going to have the colossal responsibility of a child at the ripe old age of 15 and that is fine legally? But, if an eighteen year old had not known her age and got her pregnant, he'd be facing jail, registry, rape charges, etc. She knew what she was doing.....thank heaven the boy is her age! I absolutely do not condone forceful acts of any kind so I am considering this a cosensual act. Ahhh, but proving that is a whole other issue. I know not every 15 year old is at the same maturity level but they get educated about sex whether it be from their peers (heaven help them!!), parents, TV, books, or in school. In our state (PA), there are two sets of criterion for sex offender's victims. The two groups are broken down into 13 and under and 18 and under. I think it then covers those sex offenders who are not as preferential as some. Still, the 18 and under covers a very braod range or does it only cover 14-18? It isn't totally clear but I guess it was the best they could do. Again, when it is a forced act, I believe it's wrong either way. What are your feelings about a man well into his late 20's (27-28ish) and beyond knowingly sleeping with a girl he fully aware to be "under age"? I would hope that a man without some criminal brain malfunctiion would say, "Whoa there.....don't think so".....but what if they don't? Do you think it should be up to the elder because they are seen as the more mature of the two and can make a more responsible decision? If he doesn't, should he go to jail? These are gray areas but people do get sent away for them so I have strong feelings about their importance. On one hand, we need to protect our young adults but on the other hand, we have to protect adults from those instances when a girl lies, doesn't look her age, etc. What then? Do we really feel we should hold the adult responsible for not being an investigator and finding out everything there is to know about her. In reality, they have had sex long before he learns too much about her. What do you think? I think everyone on this forum has made clear that sex with single digit ages and slightly beyond is not okay but what about these gray areas? It is very tricky.

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Message 120262
children versus minors


Posted by orolan on Oct 21, 2003 04:27 PM | Also by orolan
Gender: Male, Age Bracket: N/A, State: N/A, Country: United States


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120012, simon, Oct 17, 2003 03:48 AM
      120029, Silverthorne, Oct 17, 2003 06:59 PM [Pathetic sentencing guidelines]
            120044, dp1, Oct 18, 2003 02:54 AM [Juvenile Detention?]
      120040, myoung, Oct 18, 2003 02:35 AM [I absolutely agree Silverthorne]
      120065, HPierce, Oct 18, 2003 10:40 AM [Wait how can this be???]
            120085, myoung, Oct 19, 2003 03:56 AM [H. Pierce]
                  120104, orolan, Oct 19, 2003 04:07 PM [responsibility]
                        120149, myoung, Oct 20, 2003 02:53 AM [orolan]
                              120204, orolan, Oct 20, 2003 08:23 PM [how so?]
                                    120233, myoung, Oct 21, 2003 01:19 AM [orolan]
                                          120262, orolan, Oct 21, 2003 04:27 PM [children versus minors]
                                                120267, steve, Oct 21, 2003 04:55 PM
                                                120275, myoung, Oct 21, 2003 09:23 PM [prime example(sorry it's ...]
                        120177, Rachel, Oct 20, 2003 11:49 AM [Victim or Offender ?]
                              120180, myoung, Oct 20, 2003 01:30 PM [rachel]
                              120181, Rejected
            120214, dp1, Oct 20, 2003 11:40 PM [What a bunch of hypocrites]
                  120249, marta, Oct 21, 2003 02:07 PM [Read the point wrong.]
                        120254, dp1, Oct 21, 2003 02:50 PM [Point Well Taken]

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